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ok so my stupid cousin made my bird get up on her hand like scooped him up... and eveerrythinng!! he bit her like 5 times then got used to her was that bad or good? will it break my trust witrh him since i was there... it old her not to but my mom said it wass fine but iknew thatwas a baddd idea....right?:confused:
 

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i think its fine because it was the way it was acting against another person...it was trying to protect its self. but when your bird sees you coming he will know its you, you just have to show him that he can trust you! just let the bird perch on your finger then talk to it and play with it i think it should gain trust again!
 

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All weaned birds know how to perch, you just need to give him time to trust you. YOU know that scooping him up was wrong, so over time he will learn that he doesn't have to worry about you doing that to him.
 

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I would agree that scooping and holding is not a good idea. Just keep doing your training and fruitloop will learn to behave with you. My brother did it with a cockatiel that he got and the tiel never really became very tamed though eventually he would step up onto a finger reluctantly... unlike the birds that I've trained (earning their trust).
 

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So what would you do if...
My bird is very reluctant to step up onto my finger & doesn't seem to want to come out of his cage either. I leave the door open morning til night. Sometimes I feel like I am making progress, but not in the last couple of days. He just doesn't seem to want to have anything to do with me & I am scared that if I just leave him alone, all bonding that I've done with him will be forgotten by him. What do you suggest? I have tried the stick approach & he just flitters all over his cage to get away from it.:confused:
Thx...
 

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This is what I do for training...

1. put a small spray of millet in the cage. Make sure that they like it and will eat it.

2. Then I would sit next to the cage and talk to the p'let. Just get them used to your presence.

3. Once they seem comfortable (not holding still, moving away from you, etc), then
i would move to having my hand in the cage, usually holding a spray of millet towards the p'let... hand just in the door. Keep the hand there for about 5 minutes or so. Repeat throughout the day here and there for 5 minutes. Once you start noticing that the p'let is relaxing, you can try moving your hand very SLOWLY closer towards the p'let. Or you can wait and see if he'll become interested in the millet and move to eat it (I usually choose a very long piece of millet for this purpose).

4. Once he figures out that your hand isn't coming after him and so what it's on the other end of the millet, you can slowly shorten the stick of millet so that he's forced to be closer to your hand when eating the millet. Also gradually move your hand further into the cage. Note, all this time, you are watching his body language and not pushing him further unless he's comfortable with what you are doing now.

Eventually, you'll be able to get him to eat from your hand (millet stick very short) and then work it so that he would have to lean over your finger to get to the millet. Also, you have to be very patient, it takes a lot of time and training to get a bird to trust you. I took in a 3 year old untamed p'let and it took me about 1 month to get him to step up, which I consider amazing... but then I was able to bring him to work with me and worked on his training throughout the day for 5 minute periods here and there when I had a break. There are some people on this board who have worked for months with only a little progress- each bird is going to be different and progress with vary.

Also, it does help if you have a large cage door (for when the p'let steps up and you try to get him out of the cage)... I find that my guys initially will grab the top of the door and go back into the cage if the door is small.

Good luck.

PS. Also, if you search youtube. There's a nice video with budgies about millet training.
 

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Thanks for posting all of this. I think my problem lies with me...I see a little progress & get too excited & rush him. I am not the most patient person with anything & this happens to be one of them I guess. It makes me sad that one day they can be so 'in-tune' with you, behaving well, & the next so off! My bird had almost stopped biting & then I started trying to get him to lay on his back. I think that was too fast now. Oops! I am learning as well. Anyway, I had watched the you tube vid of millet training. Very patient trainer. I have a lot to learn as well not just my bird! Thanks again...will start again, slowly I guess...:(
 

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I got my parrotlet 2 weeks ago and am making some progress. He will step up, sometimes when he's in a mood he won't and I leave him alone. To get him to stay on my finger I gave him millet. To get him closer to the door of the cage, I made him stay on my finger and kept putting the millet farther and farther away so he would stay on for a little. Eventually, I put the millet through the bars on the cage right by the door, and he would stay on my finger until we got there. I had a hard time to begin with as well because I too, am not a very patient person. He also seemed very uncomfortable outside of the cage so I put on of his perches on the outside. I've left the cage open a lot too and he never came out by himself, until tonight! I can now break a little piece of millet off now and he will eat it out of my fingers, this is new too. I found the more I talk to him, the better he is. Just read to him. Read the forums, I felt kinda dumb but I think it worked.
 

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Patience is always so hard. I know the feeling :) As for the laying on the back thing, it's great. Jinx and Indi does it, took Jinx months to learn the trick and by the time I started training her, she was already 5 years old and had bonded with me really well. Indi was easy to train since she LOVES millet and is willing to do just about anything for it, especially when she sees Jinx doing it first... it only took her 2 months to learn that trick... but then I had step up and some head scritching down first.
 

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I hate to sound mean, and forgive me if I do, but, you probably took yourself back to start with your bird. Trying to get a bird to lay on its back is just about the last "trick" they accept. Think about it: teeny little pile of feathers is being made to make himself totally vulnerable to this giant with the big hand that he is still slightly afraid of. Of course he knows danger when he sees it and he probably won't let THAT happen again!! And now he's scared, he thought you would protect him and teach him how it feels to be safe. Safety and security before anything in birdy minds. When you start getting impatient try imagining that he is the human and you are the bird. I do this and believe me, it slows you right down!! It makes me want to cry when I try push my will onto Charlie and I stop and think like a little bird. It actually makes you feel terribly mean! Of course, I know that I am not a disciplinarian and I get carried away but.....Oh well, so what if my birdie never learns a trick and has me twisted around his little wing! I love him. Good luck with your training and just remember, patience, like months of it maybe....
 
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