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Old 01-29-2020, 10:42 PM   #21
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I'm so ashamed. I do not deserve to be a part of this forum.
oh come on now it's not that big of a deal you were not the first and won't be the last to get a bird sent USPS. Like I said before I was going to do it myself before I found the place I bought Pip from.
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I wouldn't worry about the past. But, everyone needs to do their part and complain. Each state has what we call an Attorney General. That person is a lot like the Insurance Commissioner of each state. In most states, like Florida, we elect our Attorney General ( usually a Prosecuting Attorney who wants to move up). Some states let their Governor appoint them.



In any case, find out who they are in your state and file a " Concern Complaint " about the post office looking the other way and sending Parrots. Do not admit you did!. What they do is cruel! In Florida, we have a great Postmaster General and he is on the ball! If a postal law is broken, it is a Federal offense and this is a whole different ball game.


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Old 01-30-2020, 01:52 AM   #23
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Let’s put this in perspective. The only issue I see is that the bird was shipped under the weight limit. Outside that all was legal and even that might be acceptable depending if the post office is taking bird weight or package weight. Thousands of birds are shipped daily without issue. Just most are not as light as parrotlets.

https://pe.usps.com/text/pub52/pub52c5_008.htm
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Well... I don't want to "let it go." Those birds can't have water for their entire journey... 48 hours for one state away. And, this breeder is mailing out hundreds of birds, who go even furthur.
All birds have to be shipped Priority Mail Express. That is overnight delivery unless on a Sunday making it two day most.
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Letís put this in perspective. The only issue I see is that the bird was shipped under the weight limit. Outside that all was legal and even that might be acceptable depending if the post office is taking bird weight or package weight. Thousands of birds are shipped daily without issue. Just most are not as light as parrotlets.

https://pe.usps.com/text/pub52/pub52c5_008.htm
That is the problem it does read like you can ship parrots but when she called I think they told her that it was illegal to ship parrots. This was a baby conure of some kind not a parrotlet but still would have been under 6oz if it applies to just the bird.

I was confused by their rules too then I read them. If you read them it does sound like you can ship any adult bird that weighs more than 6oz and less than 25lb but everyone says that this is for poultry only but it does not say that in the rules. Now it does say you have to obey other laws..
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shipped under all applicable governmental laws and regulations, including the Lacey Act, the Endangered Species Act (ESA), and regulations of the U.S. Department of Agriculture, U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service, and any state, municipal, or local ordinances
Idk it is confusing for sure but there are a lot of the larger online brokers that have USPS as an option and use them everyday.
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How the HECK do they not know there's a live animal in there?!?! First of all, the boxes look like carriers usually with holes on the sides. Second of all, if they didn't know, the box could be turned upside down or tossed or jostled or something heavy put on top!, Third of all, birds chirp and skitter around! You try putting your parrotlet in a box right now and see if they don't skitter around or chirp.

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Well... let me clear this up. I have talked to 2 different post offices, 2 different postmasters, in 2 different towns. It is illegal to ship a parakeet, canary, parrot, etc. via USPS. Both parrotlets and Conures fall well under the weight regulations. It's illegal, illegal, illegal. I truly do not not know how breeders are getting away with this (although, I DID appreciate it at the time, because it was the only way for me to get my conure.) I DO know it is illegal as crap to send a conure, parrotlet, canary, cockatiel, parakeet, etc. through USPS. I called UPS and Fed-Ex as well... Fed Ex said, "You want to send a bear?" NO!!! That was 30 minutes of wading through accent I'll never get back. The post office, at this location... is simply not asking the right questions, or is un-versed in the policies and procedures. I know, my local post office said all was fine until I pointed out to THEM this isn't acceptable, and pressed the issue farthur. So, I think post office employees are not AWARE that it is illegal to ship some bird varieties.

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