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Old 10-17-2020, 11:14 PM   #21
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I think the fourth one is a hemp seed but could be wrong.
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Old 10-17-2020, 11:30 PM   #22
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Honey can be a problem according to my vet. And sand or grit or smashed/ground up oyster shells are absolutely a no no for a parrot! This can get into their crop and cause bacteria to grow and it can cut into the crop and cause infection.



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Old 10-18-2020, 11:20 AM   #23
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The seeds they are eating are sunflower, safflower, oat groats, and something I don't know.

The sunflower and safflower are fatty and should be limited. Oat groats aren't bad seeds, and the other one also seems to be healthier.
yes, thanks. the fourth one is a hemp seed.

they eat a lot of millers as well so the diet is not too bad. i see the full picture now and worry less. nutriberries pack is on the way.

i ve noticed today there is no urates in the green birdie's poop but he drinks more than the blue one.

they are quite active today, play with toys and explore the cage floor. seems their life is getting back to normal
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Old 10-18-2020, 12:00 PM   #24
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I have an article saved that has information on what each nutrient is for in bird nutrition if you want to have a read I will link it below...

https://edis.ifas.ufl.edu/vm067


Edit: Here is another pretty good one..
https://nilesanimalhospital.com/file...-Pet-Birds.pdf
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Old 10-18-2020, 12:03 PM   #25
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I have an article saved that has information on what each nutrient is for in bird nutrition if you want to have a read I will link it below...

https://edis.ifas.ufl.edu/vm067
sure, the uni article, thanks a lot!
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Old 10-18-2020, 01:21 PM   #26
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Edit: Here is another pretty good one..
https://nilesanimalhospital.com/file...-Pet-Birds.pdf
as an avid birdwatcher, i am fairly confident to say the the below is not entirely correct.

"But if you think about it, birds in
the wild would only be eating dried seeds in times of hardship; they would rather eat fresh succulent
foods or insects, etc.
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Most bunting birds' natural diet, for instance, consists mainly seeds.

Seems this article overly enthusiastically advocate pellets. While i understand the arguments, the facts have been used a tad economically, i d say.

From my 30 years experience of keeping small birds, most significantly exceeded the lifespan expectations, the birds greatly enjoy the variety of seeds and choice. at the end of the day they do not have much to do in the captivity but play with food
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I agree on them eating variety but I do see the value in the pellets and why I choose to make them part of Pips diet.

I was reading on the Association of Avian Veterinarians website and they suggest pellets too but have the caveat that the smaller birds need some seeds.
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Proper diet is critical for overall health in every species, birds
included. The easiest way to feed a balanced diet is to use
commercial formulated diets especially made for your type of
pet bird. Pelleted diets are specifically formulated to meet the
nutritional needs of your bird. They contain the right balance of
vitamins, minerals, protein, carbohydrates, and fats that your bird
requires for optimal health. There are several different pellets
available at your local pet store or veterinary clinic. Ask your
veterinarian which type of pelleted diet is best for your bird. One
caveat to the pelleted diet recommendation is that small parrot
species, especially budgerigars, but also parrotlets, lovebirds and
cockatiels, can have kidney problems on a pelleted-only diet;
for these species we recommend free choice pellets plus meal
feeding some seeds each day
Quote from the "Basic Care for Companion Birds" on this page..
https://www.aav.org/page/birdowners
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as they are molting and suffering from stress, i think the safe option is to order some organic pellets just for now. https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/...7ZA0I08A&psc=1

Zupreem is not regarded as one of the better pellet brands, but it is not the worst. It has the usual filler ingredients of corn, wheat, and soy products. This pellet is NOT organic.

The ingredient are -> Ground Corn, Soybean Meal, Ground Millet, Ground Oat Groats, Ground Barley, Ground Wheat, Wheat Germ Meal, Sugar, Vegetable Oil (Preserved With Mixed Tocopherols), Ground Flaxseed, Calcium Carbonate, Dicalcium Phosphate, Dried Carrots, Etc.

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Old 10-18-2020, 02:18 PM   #29
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None of the reputable parrotlet breeders that I know - advocate for using a primarily pellet diet. They are all aware of the liver and kidney issues associated from feeding them (other than Tops brand pellets). In addition, pellets actually DO contain ground up seeds, so you are feeding them anyways.
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I was reading on the Association of Avian Veterinarians website and they suggest pellets too but have the caveat that the smaller birds need some seeds.

Quote from the "Basic Care for Companion Birds" on this page..
https://www.aav.org/page/birdowners
well, i consider pellets as a backup for seeds. if my new birds only eat 2-3 types of seeds and ignore fruits and leaves, i will have to introduce them pellets, no doubt.

otherwise, i am Old School and enjoy watching them making mess with their seeds, fruits, veggies and leaves
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