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Old 06-18-2020, 05:29 PM   #21
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Just by coincidence, Cleopatra's daddy surprised me by buying an Avian Sun Lamp for her.

When I took it out the box today to put it together and read the directions, I found that some of the directions were completely contradictory. It says to do one thing on the front of the instructions and has something different on the back.

On the front of the instructions, there's an "Application Chart" that says after the "burn in" the recommended distance should be 12-14 inches. Then, directly below the chart, it says, the recommended distance "refers to the distance from the lamp to your birds perch”.

But, when you look on the back of the directions, it just has a black and white diagram of a bird in its cage, with the lamp overhead - there's a line above the birds head that indicates that the distance should be from the top of the birds head to the lamp. They’ve given two different directions.

I don’t see any basic information on how many hours to use the lamp for. I just got this lamp and I don't know either!

The directions are horrible. It would be easy to make a mistake with these directions.

On Zoo Med's website (the manufacturer of Avian Sun Lamp), it says "The lamp should be situated so that it is approximately 12 to 18 inches from where the bird might normally perch" at https://zoomed.com/wp-content/uploads/Birds-and-UVB.pdf
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Old 06-18-2020, 10:45 PM   #22
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On Zoo Med's website (the manufacturer of Avian Sun Lamp), it says "The lamp should be situated so that it is approximately 12 to 18 inches from where the bird might normally perch" at https://zoomed.com/wp-content/uploads/Birds-and-UVB.pdf
Oh, brother. I wonder what it will be next week.
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Old 06-19-2020, 09:23 AM   #23
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Just by coincidence, Cleopatra's daddy surprised me by buying an Avian Sun Lamp for her.

When I took it out the box today to put it together and read the directions, I found that some of the directions were completely contradictory. It says to do one thing on the front of the instructions and has something different on the back.

On the front of the instructions, there's an "Application Chart" that says after the "burn in" the recommended distance should be 12-14 inches. Then, directly below the chart, it says, the recommended distance "refers to the distance from the lamp to your birds perch”.



But, when you look on the back of the directions, it just has a black and white diagram of a bird in its cage, with the lamp overhead - there's a line above the birds head that indicates that the distance should be from the top of the birds head to the lamp. They’ve given two different directions.


I don’t see any basic information on how many hours to use the lamp for. I just got this lamp and I don't know either!


The directions are horrible. It would be easy to make a mistake with these directions.
Yes, thank you!!! It completely contradicts itself!!
It literally says in one area to put it that far from "your bird's perch" and then in that little picture it measures from the birds head- Which, I only realized they are trying to imply this time when I looked at it because the line is not actually at the birds head!- it's above it enough that I was confused by the photo last time I looked.

It also states the measurements of "12-14" and "18-20" making it sound like the light won't be effective outside those measurements so of course I tried to keep it on the closer end to him, I figured it wouldn't work if it was more than 14 away after burn in.

When I think about it now it makes sense that it would be from the bird's head because every bird is a different size and sticking the light 12 inches from the highest perch of a Macaw would result in it sitting directly under it, but the directions are dangerous with having that "your birds perch" statement if that is incorrect. I was confused by the photo so I went off the words and I hope I didn't cause him eye damage because of that. They really need to edit that wording if that isn't what they mean.

They really need to say the same thing everywhere- It shouldn't be a range of 12-20 on the paperwork and 12-18 on the website, just like it shouldn't show a photo measuring from their head but also state from "your bird's perch" in the same paperwork.

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Old 06-19-2020, 09:32 AM   #24
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To make you feel a little better, remember that our little ones evolved in arid desert conditions and equatorial sun. They are designed for bright lights to some degree.

As for avian bulbs. I tend to put them further from the bird about 18 inches and run them a bit longer. It seems to work for us, but you have to try your own time frame.

You mentioned aggression. That is typically related to too long of duration of light. Like staying awake over 12 hours. Think of them being a bit like a cranky child not getting their sleep.
Ozzie, how long do you run your the light at that distance? Do you measure from the birds head at it's highest perch?
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Old 06-19-2020, 09:33 AM   #25
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Old 06-19-2020, 12:41 PM   #26
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Ozzie, how long do you run your the light at that distance? Do you measure from the birds head at it's highest perch?
I run my avian bulb 6 hours 18 inches above her head on top perch. Also I just have the light on half the cage so she can get away from it is she wants. They start at 10am to 4pm.

Her non avian bulbs run from 9am to 7pm.

You have to adjust to your birds personality. Jules is not an early bird. No worm for her. She likes to sleep late and stay up late.

Also, Jules gets a lot of free flight time. Especially during this lockdown. Basically if we are home during her waking hours and it is safe she is usually out.
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Yes, thank you!!! It completely contradicts itself!!
It literally says in one area to put it that far from "your bird's perch" and then in that little picture it measures from the birds head- Which, I only realized they are trying to imply this time when I looked at it because the line is not actually at the birds head!- it's above it enough that I was confused by the photo last time I looked.

It also states the measurements of "12-14" and "18-20" making it sound like the light won't be effective outside those measurements so of course I tried to keep it on the closer end to him, I figured it wouldn't work if it was more than 14 away after burn in.

When I think about it now it makes sense that it would be from the bird's head because every bird is a different size and sticking the light 12 inches from the highest perch of a Macaw would result in it sitting directly under it, but the directions are dangerous with having that "your birds perch" statement if that is incorrect. I was confused by the photo so I went off the words and I hope I didn't cause him eye damage because of that. They really need to edit that wording if that isn't what they mean.

They really need to say the same thing everywhere- It shouldn't be a range of 12-20 on the paperwork and 12-18 on the website, just like it shouldn't show a photo measuring from their head but also state from "your bird's perch" in the same paperwork.
It is confusing! And, why doesn't it tell you how many hours you should have it turned on for? That is weird to me.
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Old 06-19-2020, 02:55 PM   #28
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I run my avian bulb 6 hours 18 inches above her head on top perch. Also I just have the light on half the cage so she can get away from it is she wants. They start at 10am to 4pm.

Her non avian bulbs run from 9am to 7pm.

You have to adjust to your birds personality. Jules is not an early bird. No worm for her. She likes to sleep late and stay up late.

Also, Jules gets a lot of free flight time. Especially during this lockdown. Basically if we are home during her waking hours and it is safe she is usually out.
Thanks, Ozzie! 6 hours and 18 inches above her head on the top perch sounds about right to me. I don't want to have it any closer than that. I think I'll start off with 2-3 hours a day and see how she does. Right now, I have it standing on the other side of the room, because she thinks it's a great big monster that's going to get her. I'll just move it a little bit closer every day until she gets over her fear of it.
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I run my avian bulb 6 hours 18 inches above her head on top perch. Also I just have the light on half the cage so she can get away from it is she wants. They start at 10am to 4pm.

Her non avian bulbs run from 9am to 7pm.

You have to adjust to your birds personality. Jules is not an early bird. No worm for her. She likes to sleep late and stay up late.

Also, Jules gets a lot of free flight time. Especially during this lockdown. Basically if we are home during her waking hours and it is safe she is usually out.
Thanks, I'll start to retry with 3 hours at a distance like you use- close to 18.
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