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nar1122
08-25-2007, 04:16 PM
My mother has a male parrotlet, Oliver. He is two years old.

She also has a female parrotlet (Oscar's sister/clutch mate), Koana, and she is 5-6 months old.

She wants to put them together, as companions and possibly as a breeding pair (in the future).
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The problem is:

They are both VERY territorial of their cages, and everything inside, including their toys, perches, etc.

She knows to put their cages next to each other, etc., but after, when it is time to put them together, whose cage should be used?

Should Oliver go in Koana's or vice versa?

Or should they go into a whole new cage, that is new to both of them. (This is what I think.)
AndreaFahy
08-25-2007, 04:57 PM
Out of the two I am sure one is bossier than the other (it may be hard to tell right now)

What size cages are they dealing with? If it is something larger than yours then just put them together *L* They'll have enough space to get away and no boundaries to protect anymore.
nar1122
08-25-2007, 06:27 PM
If you remember the measurements, they are both in a cage about the size of Oscar's old/original cage.
She is definitely going to be putting them together in a cage that is at least the size of Oscar's new/current one.
AndreaFahy
08-25-2007, 07:06 PM
Okay, if she can upgrade to a 21 x 32 like Sally shows in her pictures that will be best. I have a pair in a 20 x 26 currently and they do OK - but def. need more space. They may be adopted in teh very near future (*YAY* !!!!!) And they will go to their new home in the larger flight. They def. need the extra space. If she can do it, the double flight is even better :) We have access to that cage now and I am VERY excited!

http://us.st11.yimg.com/us.st.yimg.com/I/yhst-63706253670771_1964_104466000
catfish
08-25-2007, 07:13 PM
ooo pretty cage! :)

I hope to get that one day!
AndreaFahy
08-25-2007, 07:36 PM
Me too - I have a number of birds that I would like to graduate to that size.
catfish
08-25-2007, 07:43 PM
Well. . . I've talked with my partner... we are going to be looking for a home with a sun room! This will mean that I get my cage free bird room! Now I want to keep the p'lets in the living room, but they will be upgraded to the double flight cage by the time that happens.

I'm going to use that room for the 2 quakers. . . I would love to use the room for a B & G macaw, but I am afraid I just won't have the time with 2 p'lets and 2 quakers... just wouldn't be fair, especially to give a room to a B & G and keep the quakers caged. I could never rid of any of my birds to make room for another bird.
AndreaFahy
08-25-2007, 08:13 PM
Wonderful news!! If the room is large enough you can have ALL of those birds in it :)

Our room is only 20' x 12' in it: 6 pairs parrotlets, 1 grey, 1 pair macaws, 1 sun conure, 1 pair cockatiels, 1 pair bourke parakeets and they do MARVELOUSLY together!! (they are currently back in cages though b/c we have to work on their room a bit) Previously they all HATED one another and had blood death wishes upon each other *L* But in a cageless environment they release so much more energy and are too busy to worry about going after each other.

Cageless, free flighted is really the perfect solution to parrot keeping :)
catfish
08-25-2007, 08:26 PM
I brought it up, and really expressed my desire for this type of room. My partner finally decided that it would be a good idea that way my birds would be so happy... which would make me happy.

I've been so excited, we recently decided this! My partner gets to have a library/study to do whatever with. I get a sun room. Those are the 2 things we will be looking for when house hunting in the spring.

oh and back on subject. I would look to get a new cage so it would be neutral territory or a much larger cage.
nar1122
08-26-2007, 11:21 AM
Okay.

I'm going to talk to her about it. We are going to a bird show next weekend, so we will look there.

:):)
AndreaFahy
08-26-2007, 05:32 PM
If you go to a bird show (and there are birds there) wash everything (including yourself, clothes, products, etc, etc) with Oxyfresh Cleansing Gele. My avian veterinarian advises this b/c it can deactivate things like the polyomavirus. Bird shows can be an awful grounds for taking home diseases, viruses, etc. Just be SOOO careful!
nar1122
08-26-2007, 07:38 PM
Thanks, Andrea!

To be honest, I never really thought of that!

Thanks!
:):)
BUUZBEE
08-27-2007, 02:33 PM
http://us.st11.yimg.com/us.st.yimg.com/I/yhst-63706253670771_1964_104466000

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a201/BUUZBEE/Aviary%20and%20Cages/NEW%20CAGES/newcagesoutside007.jpg

We have the singles right now (grass keets and p'lets)... but will be getting the double soon for the green cheeks. Hopefully one day, i can remove the divider!
AndreaFahy
08-27-2007, 02:41 PM
Even the singles are great :) I ReALLY like these cages.
BUUZBEE
08-27-2007, 03:29 PM
i dont think the bars are sturdy enough for a bigger conure, but green cheeks etc. are fine.
nar1122
08-27-2007, 05:32 PM
That is the cage I was going to originally buy for Oscar.

But I went to the bird show and found a decent sized one for half the price.

http://www.windycityparrot.com/page/Windycityparrot/PROD/3221/19302242001?gclid=COXK0Ka96IwCFQQRYwodd28i7g

Is there anywhere that is cheaper than that price?
Where do you guys get yours?
BUUZBEE
08-27-2007, 05:38 PM
I have seen them as low as $89, but shipping isnt free or they are out of stock (convinient! LOL) I got mine $129 w/ free shipping.

http://www.qualitydiscountcages.com/proddetail.asp?prod=LC%2DGA13221&cat=19 $129 w/ free shipping

http://www.parrotsparrotsparrots.com/p-cages-pp.htm $139 w/ free shipping

http://www.featherfarm.com/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=21&products_id=40 $109 w/ free shipping
(this was the place that was $99, but out of stock)
nar1122
08-27-2007, 05:46 PM
Thanks!

:)
AndreaFahy
08-27-2007, 06:20 PM
The prices on those sites are damn low. They are probably getting distributor pricing and selling them to the retail customer at wholesale pricing >:( Not good for people like me that have to pay wholesale and mark it up to normal retail.

You can buy the cages from us for a bit more - doesn't save you anything but the proceeds all go towards the parrots in our adoption program, rescue efforts and so forth.
nar1122
08-27-2007, 06:24 PM
Well I am not necessarily going to buy one. But I will keep your shop/birds in mind.

;);)
BUUZBEE
08-27-2007, 06:29 PM
The prices on those sites are damn low. They are probably getting distributor pricing and selling them to the retail customer at wholesale pricing >:( Not good for people like me that have to pay wholesale and mark it up to normal retail.

You can buy the cages from us for a bit more - doesn't save you anything but the proceeds all go towards the parrots in our adoption program, rescue efforts and so forth.

It is a shame... maybe you can run promos for them, buy so much on toys or something, and get 20% off or something like that??? It amaizes me they can ship them free too!
AndreaFahy
08-27-2007, 07:27 PM
:) It drives me crazy!!! I get so jealous that I can't compete online with those prices. Now in the physical shop no one really knows the difference, but I would practically loose money if I dropped online pricing anymore than I might actually set it at. Oh well, at least those cages are available to the birds that need them.