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heatherbrown
08-16-2007, 08:17 PM
I've got one very tiny baby..just hatched today!!:o
nar1122
08-16-2007, 08:23 PM
Congrats! Good luck!
PICTURES....we need PICTURES :) :) :) !
Oh, and congratulations on becoming a grandmother, of course ;) .
Regards,
Art S.
nar1122
08-16-2007, 08:34 PM
:eek::eek: Indeed, we DO need pictures. I can't believe I didn't think of that! :rolleyes::rolleyes:
lol
AndreaFahy
08-16-2007, 09:42 PM
Ooh, I hope you plan to or will consider allowing the parents to raise !!
musicjan
08-16-2007, 11:07 PM
Here's another vote for pictures!
heatherbrown
08-16-2007, 11:42 PM
Now there are two....
I am planning for the parents to raise (mostly) withmaybe supplemental feedings from me and lots of handling.
However. When I checked in earlier, the two didn't appear to be moving or making any noise. Got me nervous.
AndreaFahy
08-17-2007, 01:05 PM
I hope that goes well for everyone :) It would be wonderful if you can follow through (parents as well)
Do you have a gram scale? Early morning weigh in's are the best way to make sure that the parents are doing a good job.
Plato&Mya
08-20-2007, 06:02 PM
Heather..how are your babies doing??
BUUZBEE
08-21-2007, 03:51 PM
Congrats!!! how are the bubs? are the being fed well, with nice full crops?
heatherbrown
08-21-2007, 07:25 PM
I checked in on them today and saw three, live healthy looking babies!
They are still sooo tiny, and another is due to hatch tonight.
I think there may be 8 or 9 eggs total....so if they all hatch..I'll have to be sure they are getting enough food!
I'll post pics as soon as I can get them..the mother refuses to leave the box, and I am afraid of upsetting her right now!
nar1122
08-21-2007, 07:43 PM
Neat!
Good Luck!
I hope they do well.
:D:D
BUUZBEE
08-22-2007, 11:47 AM
Thats a nice big clutch! they will have a lot of work ahead if they all hatch :) is this their first clutch?
heatherbrown
08-23-2007, 11:03 AM
I only bought the pair last May. The previous owner said they had had clutches before (usually of about 5 or 6).
BUUZBEE
08-23-2007, 05:13 PM
great, they are old pro's then :)
heatherbrown
08-24-2007, 04:50 PM
Now there's at least 4!!
musicjan
08-24-2007, 09:29 PM
Oh wow! must be so exciting! What color are the parents?
heatherbrown
08-24-2007, 10:42 PM
The father is blue; and the mother is visual green/split to blue.
Plato&Mya
09-08-2007, 09:13 PM
Heather,
How are your little ones doing?? Any pictures??:)
heatherbrown
09-09-2007, 09:28 AM
They are doing great, the oldest two are getting thier pins in. I am trying to get pics today..it's beean difficult!
I ended up with 4...a few eggs didn't hatch.
nar1122
09-09-2007, 09:43 AM
Aww... at least 4 of them are doing good :)
My parrotlets seem like they are actually going to lay eggs this time. They have been going in and out of the nest box every 10 minutes since yesterday. The female is eating quite a bit of cuttlebone.
One of them dug a big hole in the nest box, in the corner.
Also, we gave her this type of rope or string stuff (it's nesting material for birds) and she has moved it from the bottom of the cage to the inside of the nestbox.
What do you have in the bottom of your nestbox?
I am using finely shredded wood chips.
I can't wait to have babies :)
heatherbrown
09-09-2007, 10:49 PM
Ive got wood chips in there as well. Two days before she layed her first egg, the female went into the box and didnt come back out.
Here's a few pics..they are a bit blurry since I had to shoot through the cage bars to get them, I think the oldest baby will be green!
Plato&Mya
09-10-2007, 03:42 PM
Oh, how cute.. they look good! :D
Thanks for sharing!
They are very cute - keep us posted how it goes - :)
But be careful of over checking the box - I'm read on more than one occasion now, that Parrotlet Parents are known to be overly sensitive to disturbances to their nest boxes and are known to abandon and/or attack the chicks if disturbed too much or too often.
AndreaFahy
09-10-2007, 05:48 PM
Aww... at least 4 of them are doing good :)
My parrotlets seem like they are actually going to lay eggs this time. They have been going in and out of the nest box every 10 minutes since yesterday. The female is eating quite a bit of cuttlebone.
One of them dug a big hole in the nest box, in the corner.
Also, we gave her this type of rope or string stuff (it's nesting material for birds) and she has moved it from the bottom of the cage to the inside of the nestbox.
What do you have in the bottom of your nestbox?
I am using finely shredded wood chips.
I can't wait to have babies :)
Nick, what do you plan to do if they lay and hatch eggs? It seems that you still have much to learn. Are you sure you should be allowing your birds to reproduce at this point? Perhaps you should first learn more about parrots and keeping.
AndreaFahy
09-10-2007, 05:48 PM
What type of wood chips are being used?
nar1122
09-10-2007, 06:02 PM
Nick, what do you plan to do if they lay and hatch eggs? It seems that you still have much to learn. Are you sure you should be allowing your birds to reproduce at this point? Perhaps you should first learn more about parrots and keeping.
They are in my mother's care.
My mother lives 10 minutes away from our breeder, who has much experience.
My mother's plan is to leave the babies with the parents for 2-4 weeks (if the parents tend to the babies well) and then handfeed them herself.
My mother has handfed baby birds since her high school years.
The wood chips -- I do not know. It is what the breeder gave her to use, which is what she uses for her pairs.
I will ask my mother or the breeder what brand, etc. tonight
AndreaFahy
09-10-2007, 06:09 PM
Is this the same breeder that could care less about allowing babies to perfect their flight?
There are certain kinds of wood chips that are okay, but some are not good to use at all.
How much time do you spend at your mothers?? These are your birds, but she has them? Why is that? Where do Maya and Oscar live?
nar1122
09-10-2007, 06:16 PM
Oscar and Maya and Birdie (cockatiel) live with me.
The pair was given to me and my mother from our breeder.
I had them here originally, because I had a nice outside porch for them to stay.
They weren't expected to breed (the breeder said they just finished with many clutches, and hadn't bred in the past few months)
Once I saw the signs of them mating and breeding, I brought them to my mother's house (she has the experience and the time)
I go to my mother's on some weekends. I go friday after work and come sunday evening.
When I said I would ask her, it meant via the telephone.
nar1122
09-10-2007, 06:17 PM
I'm sure these wood shavings are safe... the breeder claims she has been using them for a while.
What determines whether it is safe or not?
AndreaFahy
09-10-2007, 06:25 PM
Haven't bred in the past few months??? Have they bred this year already? Give them a break! They should not be bred more than once a year, you are going to make that hen's little body strain too much.
Shavings that are safe - aspen is best, pine is ok
do NOT use cedar shavings or dusty shavings of any kind. Certain woods emit oils or dust that are dangerous to a birds respiratory system.
nar1122
09-10-2007, 06:29 PM
It's not cedar for sure....
If the birds want to breed, then they breed...
She is not forcing them to breed, nor did I even know there is a way to force them.
They are kept in the same conditions (outside) and breed on their own schedule...
AndreaFahy
09-10-2007, 06:33 PM
Parrotlets do not reproduce unless you provide grounds for it. Parrotlets are, simply put, horny birds and will copulate constantly. They will not, however, reproduce unless you provide extra daylight (natural or supplemental) over feed them, provide a nest, etc. They aren't just going to reproduce just b/c they want to. They are being housed in captivity. In the wild they would not breed all year long.
I sure hope that hen doesn't die young from reproducing too much.
nar1122
09-10-2007, 06:46 PM
From what I understand from the breeder, they are not provided with anything extra that a regular pet bird wouldn't, except a nesting box.
They are kept outside and can't possibly get extra daylight.
I must agree with Andrea -
Nar you post flippant remarks in regards to breeding. You tout your Mother as a responsible breeder - Responsible breeders know all there is to know about the animals they are breeding (or at least they should) - this would include nutrition, housing, genetics and history just to name a few.
Yet, some of the basic questions you ask - is bird care 101 - This does not make any sense. To have a breeder in ones immediate family you would think you would get these questions answered directly from the horses mouth.
You've made several references in the past to YOUR birds on YOUR porch "doing their thing" and you were hoping for babies. When called on it you put that off on your Mother.
You've made reference to breeding YOUR two dogs and when called on that due to genetic issues in the breed - issues you've never heard of - you put that off on your Mother.
You've even posted about your intact outside cats - magically getting pregnant.
These actions for all three of these different animals are in my view extremely irresponsible and to me do not show responsible pet ownership.
Captive birds should not be allowed to breed whenever they want - they are captive - not wild. Wild birds follow the seasons - rain conditions - food availability - nesting availability and an array of other things - this helps keep them in top condition and to breed only when their body is in tip top shape.
Captive birds need to be limited in their breeding because they are being kept in unnatural conditions and their natural order is off - therefore they do not have the advantage that wild birds have. There are ways to prevent and to enhance breeding conditions for captive birds. ANYBODY breeding birds responsibly should know this.
Dog breeders breed their dogs to enhance their breed - therefore they know everything possible there is to know about their particular breed - All breeding dogs are tested for their health and genetic conditions - Most Reputable breeders do not breed for profit but for the betterment of their breed and so only breed those dogs that have been marked in the top notch portion of the breed standard. This is done by showing their dogs and gaining points to insure they are breeding only the best standards into their breed.
All outside cats and pet dogs should be spayed and/or neutered.
nar1122
09-10-2007, 08:29 PM
You obviously aren't understanding...
my mother is a dog breeder, and has been since she got married to her third husband 5 years ago (6 in october)
They are still there raising there puppies.
I never said I knew about the dog diseases, etc., or possible puppy problems. That is why I did not take any part in the breeding/birth.
The outside cats could possibly get pregnant by any other stray cat that lingers around, that we may not know about.
My mother is not an experienced parrotlet breeder. Every bird has different breeding patterns and ways.
She has experience breeding cockatiels.
Like I said in my previous post, I do not have the knowledge nor time to raise baby birds, thus I gave them to my mother. She stays at home taking care of the dogs and her pet birds.
The two dogs are MY dogs, but if I my mother wishes to breed them (as they were originally hers) then why would I say no? And if she has the experience, then why wouldn't I give them to her to handle??
I am not putting anything off on my mother. She is the pet breeder, and I am the owner of my pets.
ANYBODY breeding birds responsibly should know this
I am not the breeder, therefore I don't have to know, and there is nothing irresponsible with me not knowing.
Dog breeders breed their dogs to enhance their breed - therefore they know everything possible there is to know about their particular breed - All breeding dogs are tested for their health and genetic conditions - Most Reputable breeders do not breed for profit but for the betterment of their breed and so only breed those dogs that have been marked in the top notch portion of the breed standard. This is done by showing their dogs and gaining points to insure they are breeding only the best standards into their breed.
The dog breeding business is my mother's. What she does with her dogs is her choice. She is obviously doing something right, as this is her 5-6th year doing this.
nar1122
09-10-2007, 08:33 PM
The fact that my mother took in the kittens, and fed them and gave them good homes, rather than leave them outside defenseless, and wild, is signs of good ownership.
The fact that my mother provides food and water for the three outside cats, at all times, is a sign of good pet ownership, even though they are not her cats.
The fact that my mother is not very financially stable, is a reason that the outside cats are not spayed/neutered.
If someone were to see an outside cat, they would not say
"okay lets catch it, spay/neuter is and put it back",
just to stop the overpopulation.
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