Things Toxic to Parrotlets

[Kumiko]

I'm starting this thread to post things that are toxic to parrotlets.

If you are unsure about something being toxic, post saying you are unsure. This is for yours and my benefit.

If you have read somewhere that something is toxic but is not widely known, please post the source so others can confirm the information.

Remember also, when feeding or using anything on your parrotlet or any other pet, if you are unsure, ask your vet or do not use it unless it has been verified by reliable source. The saying "when in doubt, leave it out", is the safest way to go.

[Kumiko]

I am going to start:

Avocados - Many people feel avocados are toxic, others feel they are safe. Personally, I would not risk it.

Chocolate

Junk food of all types - for the same reasons it is unhealthy for humans
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Are gassy veggies OK to feed?

[marjet]

Don't forget to mention alcohol... small body's can be intoxicated by small amounts...

[lily]

Here's one for you: tissues! Do not let your bird chew on tissues that are advertised as germ-killing. Between the layers, they have a form of pesticide to kill germs so people don't pass their colds on to other family members. Also, I would not let my bird chew on the tissues that have moisturizer added to them. Moisturizer is not a pesticide, but it is usually petroleum-based, so is not on the safe list at my house.

[musicjan]

Rhubarb, I believe I have read - is harmful to the fids.

[Elyse]

Lily, great post on the tissues - I didn't even think about that!
Glad I haven't given him one of those.

Thanks for starting this, Rebecca and Kiwi!

[lily]

How about twistems? The ones that are paper or plastic-covered wire would be dangerous because the bird might chew the wire.

[Kumiko]

I heard that scented candles are one.

[catfish]

all candles are dangerous. anything burning is a no no around birds. perfumes, aerosals, strong scented soaps/shampoo/conditioner/body lotion/etc... basicallly anything that is a strong scented spray.

[lily]

Any plug-in air freshener is also lethal.

[AndreaFahy]

Blek! I try to keep natural and pure as often as possible, avoiding stuff like that. I didn't know it had a form of pesticide, that is really gross to me.



Here's one for you: tissues! Do not let your bird chew on tissues that are advertised as germ-killing. Between the layers, they have a form of pesticide to kill germs so people don't pass their colds on to other family members. Also, I would not let my bird chew on the tissues that have moisturizer added to them. Moisturizer is not a pesticide, but it is usually petroleum-based, so is not on the safe list at my house.

[lily]

What do you think of colored fabric, toothpicks, and the cotton that comes out of vitamin bottles? Which would be safe for a bird? Any opinions/ experience? (I should note that my bird's favorite pastime is unravelling strips of fabric-- I just thought it would be fun to let her undo brightly colored fabric, if it is safe.)

[Pado]

Out of those choices I would only let my birds play with the toothpicks –

Although I don’t consider myself overcautious I did have a bird – a Senegal - strangle herself on a small plastic basket with holes in it. I would fear the same happening to the P’lets with frayed fabric if left unattended.

Even supervised, it would be hard to say if the colors would be harmful – they are dyed so that might be a problem and fabric is made in so many different places around the world who all have different levels of preparation – so who know what chemicals there is in one compared to another.

The cotton out of vitamins or pill jars – I would be fearful the cotton might have absorbed some of the ingredients of the pills –

Although my Senegal used to love playing with Q-tips.

Okay – maybe I am somewhat cautious :D

[nar1122]

I wouldn't allow it to play with the toothpicks in fear of swallowing a small piece.
I am careful with EVERYTHING! My parrotlet is not allowed out of the cage unless he is always in my supervision...he is very curious, and will eat anything!! Its a scary scary thing. Unfortunately, they don' grow out of this! :o

[birdiemom]

most all spray cleaners...never use on cages.

[nar1122]

yep. I just use super hot water

[Pado]

A great and a safe cleanser is Grapefruit Seed Extract or GSE - you get it on Line or at most Health Food Stores. Its great for disinfecting the bird cage and their food cups - just some drops in the sink with a bit of water and rinse the cleaning towel.

Its used for humans to drink in juice or water (although in the water its very bitter) but it wards off sickness etc - Great Stuff.

[catfish]

I use a mixture of vinegar, water, and lemon juice.... very acidic and kills most bacteria. You really don't need the lemon juice, I just use it for sent.

[Paula0442]

Nobody mentioned caffein. I had a Rainbow Lory that would dive into my cup if I wasn't watching.

[mikesonly1]

Definitely don't use any cookware that is coated with teflon. It gives off a chemical in the air that is toxic.

[Mustang99]

I have helped my breeder put information together and here is the insert that we use and still encourage folks to google and research further...
Avoid using around birds – remember their tiny respiratory systems
· Scented candles and sprays
· Plug-in air fresheners
· Teflon pans (odorless/colorless fumes – can be fatal within minutes if overheated)
· Smokers – birds should not be anywhere near smoking
· Also, smokers should wash their hands before handling
· Fumes from cooking sprays or greasy cooking
· Ceiling fans
· Paper towel rolls (source of zinc which must be avoided)
· Toothbrushes – has metal in the bristle – could be fatal
· Galvanized metal – toxic levels of lead and/or zinc (using a magnet…if it clings to something in the cage or the cage itself, remove the item and consider a stainless steel cage.
· Stovetops
· Household cleaners (bleach, etc)
· Moth balls
· Paint fumes, paint thinner or remover
· Floor cleaners, polish, waxes
· Plants – reference the internet for poisonous plants for birds…there are too many to list. You can find a listing of safe plants to have around the bird(s).
· Electrical cords
· Other pets in the home
· Cover aquariums and close toilet lids
· Holiday decorations (tinsel, ribbons, balloons, etc.)
· New carpeting – move the birds to a safe area until the carpet is shampooed, and vacuumed several times.
· Space heaters – if coated in Teflon should not be used near birds
· Scented toilet paper or tissues -- do not let the birds chew on the rolls...contain zinc.
· Fumes from hot glue guns
This list only covers a small portion of cautions. Please continually research…when in doubt, check first for the safety of your bird.

[BeakerLuvsBunsen]

I also heard something about cherry bark
and peach/apricot & nectarine pits being bad for parrotlets

also non seeded tomatoes, ones cubed up in a sauce are better

[Mustang99]

A few more food items that I don't recall reading..sorry if I repeat...
I read somewhere about avoiding asparagus. also, use sweet potatoes over white, avoid mayo...breeds bacteria, no lunch meats due to high salt.

[drab91]

Does anyone know for sure about this Cherry Bark? A friend was gonna bring me some cherry tree branches for perches... but if there is any doubt I will avoid em.... for some reason I remember hearing something about cherry...
Also though Halogen lamps are very dangerous.. or any hot lamp or a lamp that could trap your bird.. my budgie fell into this lamp thing and it is a miracle that nothing ever happened to her!!

[MetalPrincess8]

I have read many places that Teflon is a hazard...my question is, does it only affect the bird(s) if there's no food cooking in the pot/pan? Or are the fumes still released, even if you have food cooking in the pot/pan?

[YWallpaper]

Fumes can still be released while you are cooking food. There is a temperature at which the fumes are emitted, around 500 degrees F. It is surprising how quickly a cooking dish can be heated to that temperature, so it is safer not to have Teflon in the house, even if you are diligent about using it safely.

[MetalPrincess8]

Thanks for the response! What else do you suggest for pots/pans? Is teflon the only non-stick surface?? It seems like all pots/pans are made from this these days.

[YWallpaper]

I am looking for other non-stick alternatives as well-right now I am just cooking with butter and scrubbing the pans harder, since the non-stick sprays are dangerous as well. I know someone recently mentioned non-stick bakeware, I will try to find that thread again.

[oliveislove]

what about grass? i let her sit in the grass sometimes and she eats littlepeices off the top. anyone know?

[BeakerLuvsBunsen]

what about grass? i let her sit in the grass sometimes and she eats littlepeices off the top. anyone know?


I would assume it's fine unless there is excessive fertilizer (weed killer)
or pesticide kinda sprays on it.

they sell grass in petstores you can grow for them,
some like to run through the wet grass like a little shower

[drab91]

since the non-stick sprays are dangerous as well.

what Pam spray is not safe either?? this list really needs be taken lightly.. think of all the pets in bad homes and they are not dropping dead.. at some point this becomes obsessive I think.

[oliveislove]

Quote:
Originally Posted by oliveislove http://www.talkparrotlets.com/images/buttons/viewpost.gif (http://www.talkparrotlets.com/showthread.php?p=11137#post11137)
what about grass? i let her sit in the grass sometimes and she eats littlepeices off the top. anyone know?


I would assume it's fine unless there is excessive fertilizer (weed killer)
or pesticide kinda sprays on it.

they sell grass in petstores you can grow for them,
some like to run through the wet grass like a little shower

Thanks! where have you seen the gras in petstores though? i havent seen any but it sounds like a good idea

[drab91]

They usually have it right at the front desk growing.. I have bought it before it is good stuff :)

[mcat614]

i just purchased soy candles and was assured that since they don't have harmful parafin and are all natural that they are safe to burn in the same room with a parrotlet. is this true?

also, i have reed difusers which have oil in a jar and you put in a reed. the reed soaks up the scent. it is subtle but i am not sure it is safe for a parrotlet.

pls advise. thank you.

[wiggletail]

Coffee and chocolate (my p'let loves to try and sneak my coffee - its an obsession of hers, but toxic, so I have to keep it covered when she's out of her cage.

I know it sounds strange, but fruit seeds of any kind are bad for parrots in general. Veggie seeds are ok, such as pepper seeds, pumpkin etc. - tomaotes are fruit :) , so none of those. Also, keep away from goodies with salt, or just about any processed food.

Oh yes! I've also heard that raw peanuts are bad too - they cause a sort of fungi in the lungs I think.

Beans, when cooking for birds, must be thoroughly soaked and cooked or can cause indegestion - I think some toxicity to them being too raw. Potatoes and sweet potatoes need to be cooked til soft too.

[Sally]

I use battery candles. They are GORGEOUS!!!!! I am giving them for Christmas gifts. Safe and so pretty. You can't use candles for long, but you can have these for HOURS! I just adore them. They are made from wax, they look real, but no flame or smoke or fire danger. I took a fast photo with no flash and no tripod. ha. I needed a tripod with no flash. If I added flash it would not glow of course. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v492/Sally11/PICT08784901.jpg

[Mustang99]

Sally -- great idea...where did you find the candles?

[mcat614]

sally those candles look great but do you know if soy candles are safe? i was told they are because they are all natural and do not have any harmful toxins. same is supposed to be true of the oil that you put the reeds in. i don't want to try putting them in the same room with petie until i have confirmation from the folks on this site.

[Sally]

I get them at QVC. I am giving them as gifts this year too. I LOVE them. I have them on now as usual. I have heard soy is OK, but I don't know for sure. I am scared of fire. You cannot leave a candle burning very long. I love leaving them on. I have tiny ones, big ones.... LOVE them. They are in my fireplace too. Look up Battery Candles or Candle Impressions.http://www.qvc.com

[Kathy]

A great and a safe cleanser is Grapefruit Seed Extract or GSE - you get it on Line or at most Health Food Stores. Its great for disinfecting the bird cage and their food cups - just some drops in the sink with a bit of water and rinse the cleaning towel.

Its used for humans to drink in juice or water (although in the water its very bitter) but it wards off sickness etc - Great Stuff.

You know, I was at my local bird store and speaking to the people there. I mentioned using GSE to disinfect cages and the lady there said that anything that's food (grapefruit) and strong is dangerous to them, including vinegar. I know that many people use GSE without any problems, but I didn't know what to say to that. I was under the impression and belief that it's very safe to use.

So, I asked her what she uses then. She says to use Poop-Off. I didn't bother to look at the bottles they had for sale and tried looking it up just now - the label doesn't say what's exactly in the solution. Does anyone know?

http://www.busybeaks.com/62001-5_poop_off.htm

[Emily Rose]

You might want to add Selamectin to be very cautious with. We took our parrotlet to the vets because she chewed out all her chest feathers in less than a week and was starting on her wing feathers. She was really attacking herself. They checked her for mites but couldn't find any. They decided to use this medication which is for mites, just in case. She was fine for about 5 days after the treatment and seemed to slow down on the picking. Then she went downhill within an hour of being bouncy and perky one day. She just sat on her perch with her head turned backwards and tucked between her wings, all fluffed out. Then went into her hut and didn't want to come out. She wouldn't eat or drink. My vet was away so I had to take her to another vet. Sapphire needed to be kept in the hospital,
where the vet could tube feed her and rehydrate her. She had lost 4 grams in a very short time and was dehydrated. She is still in the hospital and I am very worried about her. She is doing better and eating by herself and may be able to come home tomorrow but isn't out of the woods yet as an over dose of this medication can cause liver damage. The problem being that they don't know for sure if it was the medication that has caused her to be so ill. It is a medication that there is very little info on and how much would be a safe dose for such a small bird.

[Emily Rose]

Another thing I have heard is toxic is self clean ovens. The ones that you lock the door on and the cleaning is at a very high temperature and takes about 4 hours. I have one but haven't used this cycle yet. Apparently it gives off fumes. Does anyone have info on this?

[drab91]

Yes I have heard from many many places that self clean ovens are bad.. probably because they have the Non Stick coating on them and they get to such a temperature... so don't do that cycle with the birdies in the house!

By the way Welcome! I notice this is your first post!! You should introduce yourself on the introductions part.. I am so sorry to hear about your little girl, I wish her the quickest recovery possible!! And you are very special to go so far to take care of her! Props and Happy Holidays!

[LucyP]

So, I asked her what she uses then. She says to use Poop-Off. I didn't bother to look at the bottles they had for sale and tried looking it up just now - the label doesn't say what's exactly in the solution. Does anyone know?


The woman at my bird store says soap and water... I use hot water and dish soap and a splash of bleach then rinse everything really well... I don't know if poop off is really necessary. It's probably a special enzyme that counteracts whatever is in the poo that makes it hard to clean. I guess it's safe but I am not sure it's necessary. I use a plaster knife to scrape off any poop first...

I don't know that GSE does much either way. I think some people feed it to their birds really diluted to keep their digestive systems healthy. Same with cider vinegars, so I doubt they're toxic unless you are dumping it on them or feeding it to them instead of water. Of course, I don't know that for sure but there you go.
I think the key is probably making sure you rinse all the residue off your cage and toys before replacing them.

[LucyP]

I think microwave popcorn is probably not a good idea since the packaging often contains the same chemicals as a non-stick pan

http://pubs.acs.org/subscribe/journals/esthag/40/i01/html/010106news1.html

[BirdsRMyLife]

Caffine!
I know my ALL my birds would love to get a taste of that, but it is highly poisonus.

[Black_Oubliette]

Someone mentioned tomatoes, are they bad? Frankie's favorite food is fresh tomatoes. He's a picky little squirt and its hard to get him to eat anything fresh.

To clean cages I use a dish soap with bleach alternative and rinse it well, it works fine for me!

[SpikeTheSuperbird]

We went to the Williams Sonoma store yesterday and they sell the Calphalon (www.calphalon.com) cookware. It's all non-teflon stuff. As far as I can tell, their non-stick is anodized to make the surface supersmooth and non-stick. Anyone have experience with this cookware?

[BeakerLuvsBunsen]

Someone mentioned tomatoes, are they bad? Frankie's favorite food is fresh tomatoes. He's a picky little squirt and its hard to get him to eat anything fresh.

To clean cages I use a dish soap with bleach alternative and rinse it well, it works fine for me!

I think as far as tomatoes go you just have to make sure they are washed well
and that the seeds are removed---

White vinegar works well on cage/counters as well

[drab91]

yeah I have heard that it is the seeds that are bad in the tomatos.. as in all fruits.. (some how tomatos are a fruit :))
But aren't tomatos pretty acidic? Might want to limit there use as well...

[Sally]

We have Calphalon cookware. We got rid of all other stuff after we got Chipper. Works fine, but I miss using the Foreman grill, waffle maker etc!!!:rolleyes:

[marce61]

I heard avacado and chocolate is extremely poisonous for P'Lets.

I use hot water and dish soap and a splash of bleach then rinse everything really well...

I let the perches soak while I dismantle the cage, then I use a common sponge with the green scubber on the back, seems to work just fine.

[lily]

I just caught up on this thread. Someone commented a few pages ago something about that pet birds would be dropping dead all over the place if our households were really so dangerous. Something to that effect. Well, I read that the average life span for a pet parrot is 5 years. Think about that. Parrotlets, I've heard, could live about 20 years. Most of the bigger parrots live longer. I personally knew a large one that lived to almost 80. And the AVERAGE parrot is only making it to 5???? So, just because your bird didn't drop dead at the first whiff of scented candle, or whatever, doesn't mean he wasn't hurt by it. I think it's great that so many here are contributing to thie thread. Thanks!

[marce61]

AH-HA, found an old article in BirdTaLK, VOL 21, Number 7: Avoid these SEEDS; Avocados, Apples, Apricots, Peaches and Plums

[YWallpaper]

I just caught up on this thread. Someone commented a few pages ago something about that pet birds would be dropping dead all over the place if our households were really so dangerous. Something to that effect. Well, I read that the average life span for a pet parrot is 5 years. Think about that. Parrotlets, I've heard, could live about 20 years. Most of the bigger parrots live longer. I personally knew a large one that lived to almost 80. And the AVERAGE parrot is only making it to 5???? So, just because your bird didn't drop dead at the first whiff of scented candle, or whatever, doesn't mean he wasn't hurt by it. I think it's great that so many here are contributing to thie thread. Thanks!

Thank you for that! I wholeheartedly agree. It is hard to reach that balance between being conscientious, and yet relaxed enough to keep living a normal life without fear of harming your bird (of course taking into account that you are doing your best to keep them safe).

[Sally]

Yes, sometimes the toxicy does take a while and five years is not long for a parrot to live. We do have to be careful. I always remember that it is not good for us to have these chemicals in the air either.

I can't believe apples are bad. Never heard of that. Maybe it is the seeds.

[marce61]

Avoid these SEEDS; Avocados, Apples, Apricots, Peaches and Plums

Clarification: MY POST IS FOR SEEDS ONLY!

I have a habit of just washing & cutting fresh fruit and serving them. I need to make sure I get into the habit of plucking out the seeds before serving!

[lily]

Many say the fruit of the avocado is bad for parrots, too. I think it is just the part close to the seed in one particular type of avocado. Still, that's something to learn about before offering them.

[Sally]

Oh, I see, I thought so! Just the seeds are bad. That is what I have learned also.

[Max]

What about just regular white paper?
I use paper to line the bottom of the cage and max seems to like to nibble/eat a little bit of the paper

[marce61]

Does anyone know for sure about this Cherry Bark? A friend was gonna bring me some cherry tree branches for perches... but if there is any doubt I will avoid em.... for some reason I remember hearing something about cherry...
Also though Halogen lamps are very dangerous.. or any hot lamp or a lamp that could trap your bird.. my budgie fell into this lamp thing and it is a miracle that nothing ever happened to her!!


CHERRY AND AVOCADO TREE BARK IS TOXIC TO P'LETS.

www.afa.birds.org/watchbird/archives/2000/3/celestial.htm (http://www.afa.birds.org/watchbird/archives/2000/3/celestial.htm)

[Kumiko]

Here are some plants and other itmes that are toxic (fruits, seeds, leaves, the plant all together):

http://petcaretips.net/poisonous-plant-bird.html

[lovemyboys]

When i am eating cereal, Fiji likes to perch on the bowl and get one. I let him have one. Is one bad for him? Oh - the cereal is honey nut cheerios.

Also, he is attracted to bread. I have thought of making some home made bread for him and freezing it. It would be made from scratch with stone ground whole wheat.

[lovemyboys]

I would avoid giving them shredded wheat. Fiji acted like it got stuck in his crop after a couple bites of it.

[mcat614]

does anyone know of a safe and natural anti static spray?

[IceQueen30]

Lovemyboys, i think you can give some cherios to your parrotlet, my breeder's wife told me that you can give some cherios to them once in a while as treats, but reasonably :p

[lily]

I heard that a ball of aluminum foil in the dryer could replace dryer sheets, but I have never tried it. I don't know if it is anti-static. Synthetic fibers make static. If you only use natural fibers, you don't have that problem.

[lovemyboys]

use a humidifier.

[raiven]

I was just reading where those cooking bags were lethal to little birds and may actually be made with teflon.

And also was reading about some problems with parrots and cuttlebones. "The hard backing on the cuttle bone, if ingested in pieces, can be sharp enough to cause perforations within the bird's digestive system. It is recommended to scrape the cuttlebone onto food rather than put the whole piece in the cage." Can anyone comment on this for me please?

Also walnut and corncob litter if ingested can kill a bird.

www.parrotparrot.com/birdhealth/alerts.htm#cuttlebone (http://www.parrotparrot.com/birdhealth/alerts.htm#cuttlebone)

[lineola]

Does anyone know for sure about this Cherry Bark? A friend was gonna bring me some cherry tree branches for perches... but if there is any doubt I will avoid em...

This perch information website puts cherry in the NO column. And if you scroll down the page farther, gives some discussion as to why:

http://www.mdvaden.com/bird_page.shtml

Maddie

[Pado]

WOAH ... all the wood I have in my house is Cherry - from my cabinets and built ins to the banisters to the dining room furniture ... even the bar stools are cherry wood ... gulp - I've had birds for years and had no idea this was a forbidden wood- I need to do more reading on this subject :eek: No snacking on the furniture for the Peepers :p

[rakeshbarman]

AndreaFahy has made a basic but strong point.
I myself try to provide as much natural things to the birdies as possible. The cage netting infact has been one of my concern; i have used aluminium netting against galvenised iron netting, this saves me from doing a rust free paint job. The zinc in GI nets itself is toxic given that the birdies will spend almost its lifetime within these nettings, the paints would just add more of toxins. I have reduced the plastic contents to null except two plastic rings hanged as toys, sooner i will replace them. Rest, most of the playtime tools are of bamboo, jute ropes, dried coconut leafs etc. Even for serving food and water i use earthen bowls and plates. At the bottom of the cage i previously used printed papers but after taking a tip from a co-member i now use plain news paper rolls, they are quite cheap.

[MaggiesMom]

I recently went browsing at a crafts shop and kept seeing items I though Maggie might like playing with, is craft wood a bad choice for a parrotlet an example: http://www.joann.com/joann/catalog.jsp?CATID=cat3005&PRODID=prd1642

or what about this raffia stuff? http://www.joann.com/joann/catalog.jsp?CATID=cat2991&PRODID=prd53107&source=search

[montgomery2007]

I think I only saw it mentioned once, but you should never smoke (anything) around your birdies; nor should you allow them to smoke.:D

[Carebear]

I believe onions are a no-no, too.

[BeakerLuvsBunsen]

So my fiance's brother has recently started lighting matches for "bathroom odor elimination" I am kinda worried b/c our room with the birds is directly across from the bathroom... Should I tell him to cut it out?

He also uses the forman grill and it really peeves me off.
I have explained that it could KILL my birds and all he does is open
a window and put the fan on... ugh

I just moved in with them about a month ago so I hate to be demanding
but I just don't want to take chances

[jessief423]

I just moved in with them about a month ago so I hate to be demanding
but I just don't want to take chances

Yes, I just moved in with my aunt about a month ago, and it's really hard, especially because she has two defiant children! She's the type that doesn't where her seat belt because she thinks it's not going to matter anyways. It really worries me about the things she might do without regards to my bird when I'm not around!

[BeakerLuvsBunsen]

I get them at QVC. I am giving them as gifts this year too. I LOVE them. I have them on now as usual. I have heard soy is OK, but I don't know for sure. I am scared of fire. You cannot leave a candle burning very long. I love leaving them on. I have tiny ones, big ones.... LOVE them. They are in my fireplace too. Look up Battery Candles or Candle Impressions.http://www.qvc.com

I might have to try these...


(I know this is an old thread but I was searching for info on asparagus and this came up....)

[waterfaller1]

This is a GREAT thread and one that should be bumped once in awhile!
Not mentioned~ teflon coated burner bibs. I read of someone who used these, one got hot, the fumes were picked up by and circulated to the basement by the A/C. It killed dozens of breeding pairs of birds..macaws, toos, etc.
We need to copy and repost all the items mentioned in this thread. Then maybe sticky it!

[waterfaller1]

More thoughts...
sun catchers{the kind you put in the window} have lead in the frame part
pencils=lead
artificial sweeteners
diffembachia{AKA dumb cane}
the dirt in houseplants[can have pesticides or fertlizers which could be harmful}

Also, someone mentioned letting their bird in the yard to pick at grass. I would say this is a no no, at least in my town. We do perimeter spraying for bugs, and the county comes through every few months and does broadcast spraying for mosquitoes.

There are safe toys and alternatives for letting your parrotlet just chew on anything it finds interesting. Have many of these on hand for your bird to play with.:cool:

[waterfaller1]

Sorry, you have me thinking of all kinds of hazards..wanted to add this.
When I got Sheba my B&G macaw, she came with a toy that was a circular shaped dog bone. It was on a chain, looped in a circle. Sheba managed to get her head in it, it constricted her airway, and she began choking. Luckily, both Troy and I were there. I held her feet, while he removed the clip from the top, which had to be removed with a tool.
Even though toys are sold for birds, scrutinize them for safety!

[waterfaller1]

Here's another one~ Fabreeze...bad stuff!

These are cool

http://www.theperchstore.net/wisade.html

[chapala]

Yes on those extra ones you mentioned, except pencils do not have lead - they have graphite in them.
Reta

[waterfaller1]

Yes on those extra ones you mentioned, except pencils do not have lead - they have graphite in them.
RetaOh..:o:D That makes more sense, since we give them to kids, who put them in their mouths. Wonder where that misinformation came from?

[waterfaller1]

And here's the answer, we call it 'pencil lead', but it's not lead at all..:rolleyes:
http://science.howstuffworks.com/question465.htm

[Rosekeet]

AH-HA, found an old article in BirdTaLK, VOL 21, Number 7: Avoid these SEEDS; Avocados, Apples, Apricots, Peaches and Plums

These seeds are toxic because they contain a compound that forms cyanide when eaten. If humans swallow an apple seed, we're fine because it just passes right through. Birds, however, break the seeds open. If a human chewed and swalled a dixie cup full of apple seeds, it would kill them! If the bitter taste didn't make them vomit first...

Organic chemistry came in handy! :)

[raiven]

I just bought a Stouffer's microwave paninni that has a 'grilling' disc thing to brown the bread. Does anyone know if this a teflon thing or not? I do not see info on the box.

[Anneka]

If a human chewed and swalled a dixie cup full of apple seeds, it would kill them! If the bitter taste didn't make them vomit first...



LOL, I imagined someone actually eating that many apple seeds and it made me giggle.

Good thread. There were a few things I learned too.

[25k]

apparently air ionizers are bad for birdies and people.

[Dambae]

I know the self-clean cycle on ovens is bad for birds, but what about using the oven itself on 400-500 degrees? I get concerned because mine is a bit dirty and has a tendency to smoke.

Thanks!

[Steve]

What kinds of veggies are a no-no? I blend a veggie mix in with Izzy's mash because she doesn't eat them by themselves. I try to vary the veggies, but every time I go shopping I wonder in the back of my head if it is okay to feed certain ones or not. Like squash or yams, I assume they have to be cooked first. Do green beans have to be cooked as well? I have been cooking veggies that humans can't eat uncooked either as a general rule of thumb. I know tomato seeds and onions are bad, but any others? What about eggplant?

[raiven]

I give fresh green beans and acorn squash raw, chopped in the food processor. I do not feed raw yams which are really sweet potatoes, but I believe it is acceptable to do so.

I do not feed tomatoes, potatoes, onions, mushrooms, asparagus or avocado. Swiss chard, spinach and beet tops are ok in small amounts fed rarely. Kale, dandelion greens and bok choy are better. I include zucchini, sometimes cucumber, whole pea pods, broccoli, carrots and carrot tops and beet roots. I chop everything together and give it raw along with the occasional addition of raw ginger root. I give wheat grass when I grow it as well as the sprouted whole grains and legumes. (adzuki or mung are the ones I commonly sprout.) I also add a bit of powdered wheat grass or alfalfa and a speck of powdered kelp. My birds also get a portion of their diet as Harrison's pellets. From 10 to 50% depending on their moods but average maybe 20%. The vet reccommended a bit of red palm oil, about 1 drop on their mash, which I give 3 or 4 times a week.

[AmyK]

:confused::eek: I can't believe this thread. My birds should have died a long time ago according to this. Before I found this thread I used to take my birds in the shower with me and they would sit on the edge while I showered cause they loved the humidity. I guess I am damn lucky they haven't died from the smell of the soaps. I have been doing that for years! Sheesh.

[Pekoecat]

This is a very helpful thread but I need some clarification on the Calphalon cookware. A couple of people here said that's what they use. Can someone confirm that this is safe to use? If it is - I'd run right out today and get some.

[ParrotletsRock]

I don't know about the cephalon cookware , but I just bought a set of tri ply stainless cookware at Walmart . It is very heavy and cooks real nice. The best part is that it was marked $149 and rang up at $100. Can't beat that...lol. The brand I bought was tramontina. They are really pretty pots and pans to. I also bought a larger covered fry pan and a 3 quart pot. No more teflon for me and my birdies.

[BeakerLuvsBunsen]

I use calphalon and "green pans" we got them from crate & barrel

[Exoteric]

Concern # 1

I'm wanting to touch up the coating on a cage (there are some rusty spots).
Is it safe to use Krylon High gloss spray?

Concern # 2

Is 1 inch spacing too big for Parrotlet and lovebird cage?

Concern # 3

Is it ok to use 100% natural bees-wax candles ok?

[Sara!]

I also use Green Pan cooking supplies. Definitely non-stick and PTFE free.

http://www.green-pan.com/cookware/intro.asp

Sticky this thread! It's scared the bejeebers out of me.

[babyparrotlet]

i have a question!!

are candles and scented oils bad for the bird???

[BeakerLuvsBunsen]

i have a question!!

are candles and scented oils bad for the bird???

Yes, they can be fatal. Birds have a very delicate respiratory system

Please read: airborne chemicals (http://www.thecanaryreport.org/2009/01/23/airborne-chemicals-can-kill-birds-very-quickly/)

[babyparrotlet]

and teflon pots and pans are they just bad anytime you use them or just when they over heat??

[Sara!]

and teflon pots and pans are they just bad anytime you use them or just when they over heat??

TECHNICALLY they're just bad when they overheat, because that's when they release toxins into the air. But a) you don't want to risk it and b) why would you want to eat something that's been cooked on a toxic material? Best not to have them around at all if you've got a little bird at home!

[babyparrotlet]

TECHNICALLY they're just bad when they overheat, because that's when they release toxins into the air. But a) you don't want to risk it and b) why would you want to eat something that's been cooked on a toxic material? Best not to have them around at all if you've got a little bird at home!

thanks!!:D

[tmpshrty96]

sorry if im a little late on this post but is blue jean pants material toxic to parrotlets??

[Tina&Jeremy]

We use stainless steel pans for most cooking, and for delicate foods that need non-stick we have a cast iron skillet. I figure...if you need something that's safe, it's probably best to use what's been around for hundreds of years :D

[pauline009]

Are air fresheners and scented candles really that dangerous?! I just got 2 parrotlets and have several plug-ins and ofter burn a scented candle at night.

[Kayla]

Thanks so much for posting this and making us all aware of these hazards, everyone!

[Jpack]

This was very interesting and informative. Thanks guys, love it! I also wanted to add that my vet also mentioned newspaper. He said the print releases toxic fumes, especially the colored ink. He recommended wax or parchment paper under the grate with a plain white (cheap one) paper towel on top if I wanted to. And come to think of it you can smell the ink! The parchment paper can las a couple of days, because it can be picked up and over the trash the poop just slides off. :)

[catfish]

Are air fresheners and scented candles really that dangerous?! I just got 2 parrotlets and have several plug-ins and ofter burn a scented candle at night.

technically? yes, they are not safe. the molecules build up along the bird's air sac and can make it difficult to breath.

do i use candles and air fresheners? Yes, but not in the same room as the bird, but i limit their use. i also use scented body wash and shampoo and use cologne (rarely, but it's still there).

it is not the best for the bird, but in reality, is it enough to shorten their life span significantly? I'm not sure, so i limit exposure to the bare min.

honestly, the only way to keep a bird as close to 100% safe as possible would be a climate controlled green house w/ double doors that required one door to be shut before opening another. the plants be organic and the climate control be run off of a generator w/ alternative engergy sources if the electricity were to go out... so unless you have that kind of money, it's all about reducing risk and exposure. at least that's my opinion.

[krysm]

:confused::eek: I can't believe this thread. My birds should have died a long time ago according to this. Before I found this thread I used to take my birds in the shower with me and they would sit on the edge while I showered cause they loved the humidity. I guess I am damn lucky they haven't died from the smell of the soaps. I have been doing that for years! Sheesh.

Is it ok for birds to shower with us if we're not using soaps?

[krysm]

We use stainless steel pans for most cooking, and for delicate foods that need non-stick we have a cast iron skillet. I figure...if you need something that's safe, it's probably best to use what's been around for hundreds of years :D

So are all non-stick pans bad? That's all I have in my house aside from a cast iron.

[catfish]

Is it ok for birds to shower with us if we're not using soaps?


i wouldn't actually be showering if the bird was in there.... w/ my larger parrot, they sat on the curtain rod and would lean into the water while i showered, but if they wanted to join me, i didn't get the soap and shampoo out.

[catfish]

So are all non-stick pans bad? That's all I have in my house aside from a cast iron.


non stick pans when over heated IS toxic, but used properly, it should be fine.

we had a case where a man killed all 15 of his budgies b/c he forgot about a pan and it over heated....that was tough to explain to him.

[krysm]

Oh gosh - I think I may look into changing pans. We do have good quality, expensive pans, but I don't think that makes a difference. I would hate to harm my birds with my cookware and we are cooking at home all the time. My husband used to be a chef - so he's usually good with not overheating the pans, but I can't say that for the rest of us!!