Parrotlet genetics

[PetLover]

Is anyone good witht he genetices with the parrotlets...Im trying to figure out what the offspring maybe for my blue pair...I do know that my female is blue both her parents was blue...But when I got my male the lady told me that he has the albino gene..So would he be a splite he is a visual but but if he has the albino gene then he has to be split with something...I just remembering her tell me that I have a chance of getting a albino baby from him...Thanks for any help

[RockyandhisFriends]

We would have to know what the males parents are to determine what his offspring will be. If he is carrying the gene it would be lutino not albino. Assuming that he is split to lutino he would have to be bred with a bird that is either lutino split to blue or a green split to lutino and blue.

The females parrents are both blue so we would have to assume that she is a straight visual blue. If they are mated the babies would be 50% blue split to lutino and 50% blue. There is no way of telling which birds are split to lutino without breeding them.

If you would like to spend some time playing with different combinations there is a genetic calculator that I often use. It may seem a little difficult to use at first but try a few combinations where you know the results first. Here is the site: http://www.gencalc.com/ Have fun.

[PetLover]

But the lady told me it was a white bird with red eyes that would be a albino right...So all the babies would be visual blue just half would have the other gene right? They 1 and 2 years of age I just put a box on them yesterday for the first time...How long does it take for them to get use to it and start breeding?

[Pado]

There is a lot to consider and much knowledge to gather before breeding any animal. So much can go wrong and the breeder must be aware of all the scenarios in order to properly care for the animals being bred and for future generations.

I'd highly suggest not setting these birds up to breed until you know all the answers to the questions you are asking and also take on any situation that arises.

[PetLover]

I know how to care for the birds and the babies that come along with them...The only question is to see if I can know what colors to expect the offspring to be..I have handfed babies and im incubating 3 cockatiel eggs as we speak..And will be handfeeding them from day one...THank for being concerned...

[RockyandhisFriends]

As I stated earlier breeding your to birds will give you all blue birds. If the male is carrying the lutino gene then 50% of the birds will be blue split to lutino and the other 50% will be just blue. Therefore 100% of your birds will be blue.

A lutino bird is a yellow bird with red eyes. When a lutino is mixed with blue the colors somehow cancel each other giving you a white bird with red eyes which is how you get your albino.

Anytime two birds of the same color are bred the result is 100% of that color. The International Parrotlet Society does not believe in breeding birds of the same color together. They feel that the color mutations of the birds have not been around long enough and if like colors were bred together a weaker bird would be the result.

As far as knowing how long it will take for to birds to mate a produce fertile eggs is anybodies guess. I have pairs that I have bred at ! year of age and I have pairs that have taken several years before they breed. I also have several pairs that are between 4 and 5 years old and have never bred. I hope this answers your questions.

[PetLover]

Oh wow thanks...Im trying my best to understand this genetices thing...See I heard the opposite if you keep breeding different color and making splite that will result in weaker offspring...I just put a box on them they will do it when they are ready..LOL...Thanks so much

[YWallpaper]

My breeder told me that my yellow pastel's parents were both visually blue. I thought it was impossible that they would produce a visually yellow pastel offspring. From what you are saying, I was right? I wonder why he would have told me that.

[Pado]

Rockyandhisfriends, Great post. I have heard that also.

Keeping the genetic pool strong should be a priority for breeders and should be thoroughly researched, unfortunately this isn't always the case.

[conures02]

my parrotlets just had thier third batch of babies on April 16 and I got a BLUE parrotlet out of the batch!!!!!! The mom and dad are both green

[RockyandhisFriends]

Congrats on the new babies.

For you to get a blue baby both parents would have to be visual green split to blue. There babies will be 25% visual green, 50% visual green split to blue and 25% visual blue. You can expect every fourth bird born to this pair to be visual blue.

[father0fseven]

A lutino bird is a yellow bird with red eyes. When a lutino is mixed with blue the colors somehow cancel each other giving you a white bird with red eyes which is how you get your albino.




So back to the original question -- which book... which website... where can we go to get the "genetic rules"?

[RockyandhisFriends]

Try the genetic calculator referenced in the second post in this thread. It will give you the different combinations that you can expect based on the parents genetics.

Phil

[father0fseven]

Try the genetic calculator referenced in the second post in this thread. It will give you the different combinations that you can expect based on the parents genetics.

Phil

Ok, so I'm looking at gencalc.com and it seems as if some of the mutations listed don't match up to the mutations as I've learned them from the IPS/Parrotlet Ranch. For example, I thought Dilute was the new name for Am. Yellow yet gencalc has them listed as separate mutations. And what happened to cinnamon? Is it there under a different name?

[BeakerLuvsBunsen]

Ok, so I'm looking at gencalc.com and it seems as if some of the mutations listed don't match up to the mutations as I've learned them from the IPS/Parrotlet Ranch. For example, I thought Dilute was the new name for Am. Yellow yet gencalc has them listed as separate mutations. And what happened to cinnamon? Is it there under a different name?

Cinnamin is a lovebird mutation isn't it?

[RockyandhisFriends]

The calculator has most of the common mutations. I guess you would have to figure the rarer mutations by using the punnett square method.
I believe the calculator is missing both cinnamon's (Isabelle & Pallid) and the turquoise as well. The most recent mutation is an all white bird with dark eyes is not there either.

What mutaions are you trying to mate? Maybe I can help figure out the mutation possiblities .

Phil

[father0fseven]

I'm don't have any specific mutations in mind at this point. I'm just trying to learn everything I can.

[Babybreau]

the genetics calculator is fun!! I found it while I was researching breeding another type of birds. I have since decided to keep to parrotlets. I was going to try to breed 3 different kinds of birds and I don't even have the birds yet and felt overwhelmed. So I'm sticking to 1 type, and if I can do it successfully, and not lose my bird brain, then I will look at adding another type later on...
Luckily I have met some wonderful ppl on this forum and are helping me learn before I get my first parrotlet. I've even had a fun time coming up with names! I'm on a waiting list and that list seems to be forever in the future! lol

[Richcat]

Help me with the colors of my off spring

Blue baby-(nys) #54 birth date 06/04/2008

Parent-blue male (nys) band#07
parent-American white female (Texas) band# 20

Green baby-(nys) #42 Birth date 06/17/2008

parent green female(nys) band # 20 Utica,NY
parent green male (nys) band # 01 Horseheads NY

[RockyandhisFriends]

Rich,

Look at the thread that you started. I posted the possibilities there.

Phil

[Richcat]

I know phil and I forgot when I added this extra info the breeder just sent me.

Sorry

[gnissim23]

hihi,

i'm having a green male (which the side of the eye is abit blue) and a female blue...
keen to know what colours of babies it will produce..

anyone got any idea? thanks!:)