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montgomery2007
04-02-2008, 05:01 PM
I just got a call from the vet. I had blood and saliva taken from Montgomery last week, and today the Vet called and said that he has a staff infection and something called "pasteurella." I could be wrong about the title of the second one. The vet said that without antibiotics, Montgomery could get very sick. Something to do with the problem being in his tissues. I am opting to have the Vet to an antibiotic injection as opposed to sticking the medecine down my little guy's throat myself. I really dont want to be the bad guy and give my bird a complex about me feeding him.
Has anybody heard about these conditions and infections? Also I was planning to get another P'let here in the next couple of weeks. Should I hold off?
Thanks Eric
SweetPeasMom
04-02-2008, 06:21 PM
I would opt for the inj. and would hold off on bringing a new bird home.. if you have to leave it at breeder.
Staph is a short form for Staphylococcus, a type of bacteria. Pasturella is also a type of bacteria.
Staph is a very common bacteria in the world - lives on our skin, animals skin, in the environment, etc. but there are many many different species. There are also different types of Pasturella - some species are found in the mouth of cats (which is why cat bites are very bad!).
I don't know enough about birds to comment on how they affect birds of what it means when they are cultured from a pet bird.
I think you made the right choice going with the injection though. Better to not associate you with badness with having to give oral medications. I think its best to hold off too on your new Parrotlet, but you could always check with your vet to see what they think about whether these conditions can be transmitted easily from bird to bird.
Aby
I agree with Aby talk to the Vet and see if its contagious before adding another bird to your house.
Sorry to hear he has this - Hopefully the meds with clear him up.
hollybean
04-03-2008, 12:38 AM
Absolutely hold off on another bird. You should never bring a new bird into your home if you know that one may be sick. That's what things like quarantines are meant to show. Staph is very dangerous for humans so I imagine it's not so good for birds. My fiance had a MRSA staph infection and it made him incredibly sick.
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I had staph infections before
They came in the form of huge pimples that got very inflamed and infected, and were EXTREMEMLY painful
Hold off on the new birdie for sure
jessief423
04-03-2008, 02:05 PM
I had staph infections before
They came in the form of huge pimples that got very inflamed and infected, and were EXTREMEMLY painful
Hold off on the new birdie for sure
hmm, yes. unfortunately i had one recently too. i got it from over picking at a pimple on my face and had to take like three antibiotics and deal with all that nasty pus (and a bandaid on my face for two weeks!). Off topic: if you have a strong stomach and are bored, go onto youtube and type in staph infection...
it was very painful and in humans they can be extremely contagious. make sure you get that taken care of asap because if the infection spreads to the blood stream it can be deadly (in humans) i'm not sure how birds are effected but i'd guess it works the same. Also, make sure you keep everything that he comes in contact with extremely clean. wash everything as much as you can.
hmm, yes. unfortunately i had one recently too. i got it from over picking at a pimple on my face and had to take like three antibiotics and deal with all that nasty pus (and a bandaid on my face for two weeks!). Off topic: if you have a strong stomach and are bored, go onto youtube and type in staph infection...
it was very painful and in humans they can be extremely contagious. make sure you get that taken care of asap because if the infection spreads to the blood stream it can be deadly (in humans) i'm not sure how birds are effected but i'd guess it works the same. Also, make sure you keep everything that he comes in contact with extremely clean. wash everything as much as you can.
Yep, it sucks bigtime
For me I got them on my hips (not too sure why), and it was so painful I limped when I walked.
Ever since then I've been pretty OCD about washing my hands
I have hand sanitizier almost everywhere too
You can never be too careful, especially with little ones around
montgomery2007
04-03-2008, 04:36 PM
Yep, it sucks bigtime
For me I got them on my hips (not too sure why), and it was so painful I limped when I walked.
Ever since then I've been pretty OCD about washing my hands
I have hand sanitizier almost everywhere too
You can never be too careful, especially with little ones around
I appreciate all the info.......Just want to be clear; the bird has the saff infection. Not the owner.:D
I appreciate all the info.......Just want to be clear; the bird has the saff infection. Not the owner.:D
Oh sorry my mistake!
However I think staph is pretty contagious?
Just be extra careful
Better safe than sorry right?
montgomery2007
04-03-2008, 04:47 PM
Safety First!!!!!! :D :D :D
montgomery2007
04-05-2008, 03:28 PM
So Montgomery had his first of a series of antibiotic shots, but he took it like a little champ. Not a peep. They say that they will retest him again later. Does anybody know of any side effects of these antibiotics? He looks like he is just fine, but I thought I'd ask anyways.
Montgomery, do you keep your reptile near the bird? I know they can carry bacteria. Maybe call the vet and see if you bird and lizards could infect each other.
Antibiotics kill good bacteria as well as the bad. So once the bird is free of all bacteria, the bacteria that are supposed to live in the gut are in a race with any bad bacteria to get re-established. Ask your vet for some probiotics to give to your bird as soon as the antibiotics are done.
jessief423
04-07-2008, 10:40 PM
Antibiotics kill good bacteria as well as the bad. So once the bird is free of all bacteria, the bacteria that are supposed to live in the gut are in a race with any bad bacteria to get re-established. Ask your vet for some probiotics to give to your bird as soon as the antibiotics are done.
i was going to say the same thing but didn't have any suggestions. for instance, it's suggested that humans eat yogurt but that would be bad for a parrotlet. yes, i would definitely ask the vet for some suggetions on replacing the good bacteria.
hollybean
04-07-2008, 11:35 PM
I know there are some products you can buy at petco (http://www.petco.com/product/6650/Mardel-Ornabac-Bird-Supplement.aspx). I know alot of bird people use this. I would check with a vet first tho to be sure that's the right thing to do.
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montgomery2007
04-08-2008, 10:32 PM
Montgomery, do you keep your reptile near the bird? I know they can carry bacteria. Maybe call the vet and see if you bird and lizards could infect each other.
Yes I do......hmmmm interesting....
Also thanks for the recommendation for the pro biotics. I never heard of them and will make sure to ask my vet on Fri. Thanks for the great advice:D Eric
hollybean
04-08-2008, 11:28 PM
And I just wanted to add (sorry for some if this is repedative) but science has shown that the bacteria in cat siliva can be toxic to birds as well. I'd be careful to always keep pets seperate no matter how cute a kitty/bird photo-op may seem. :)
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AndreaFahy
04-08-2008, 11:32 PM
This is absolutely true, I saw a lot of animals in wildlife rehab that were just gently picked up, or licked by a cat and would die within 24 hours :( I don't even let my cats and birds share anything - no matter how much they want each other's toys, water, etc.
catfish
04-09-2008, 01:10 AM
Might want to ask your vet for probias~ it's to help re-establish the good bacteria in the digestive system.
With yogurt, it has to be activated yogurt in order to receive any benefit from it. I wouldn't feed it to a p'let tho personally
montgomery2007
04-27-2008, 03:20 PM
Well the two shots that my poor bird endured did not seem to work. I now have to give him meds twice a day, and this includes toweling him (which he hates) and giving him the meds orally. I feel terrible but I had to clip his wings so that he will be manageable. I found that trying to towel him when he is flighted is VERY stressful on him. This medical regiment will last three weeks, so I think that this will be best.
I do plan on letting his wings grow back in right away, because he seems not quite himself. He is completely handleable now, but has stopped talking entirely. :confused: I guess you never realize how great it is to have a pet that can fly until they can't, but hopefully once he can fly again he might get his voice back. If anyone has every had this experience it would be great to hear how it went for you.
thanks
eric
Sorry Eric - I hope Montgomery will recover soon. I'm sure you did the right thing with clipping his wings, he needs his meds and if this makes it easier for him to get them its for the best. As you said when he's well you can let them grow in again. Keep us posted on his health.
The best of luck to you.
montgomery2007
05-30-2008, 01:56 AM
Well, the medication worked. He has a clean bill of health. Thank you all for the kind thoughts.
Eric and Montgomery
raiven
05-30-2008, 03:03 AM
Glad to hear he has recovered well. That was quite a long ordeal for you two. Best wishes for you both.
Butters
05-30-2008, 05:26 PM
I missed the beginning of this and can't seem to find it. How did Montgomery get so sick?
Butters
05-30-2008, 05:29 PM
My parakeet, Harry, died from Pasteurella. He got the shots and the oral medication, but didn't make it. He was bitten by my cat.:( I'm happy Montgomery is well! He's a tough little guy!
montgomery2007
05-31-2008, 04:36 PM
I missed the beginning of this and can't seem to find it. How did Montgomery get so sick?
We were not sure, but he used to play in the soil of a plant, and the vet thinks that is where he got it from.
thanks for the kind thoughts.
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